Billo to Conan: Grow the Fuck Up
You’re disappointed. You feel you’ve been treated unfairly. Well maybe you have, but that’s the nature of the business: broken heart for every light, and so on. Actually, come to think of it, that’s the sort of thing that happens to all grown-ups.
And speaking of business, network television is a business: Leno had twice the Tonight Show ratings you have. Who wouldn’t want him back? And at a time when 10% of all Americans are unemployed, you’re going to be offered upwards of $30 million to walk away. How many times, over the last couple of years, have you mocked Wall Street and auto industry executives who were being obscenely rewarded for failure?
All we’re hearing from you now is how NBC is mistreating you — and you’re using the NBC airwaves to do it. You’re using your victim status to turn Jay Leno into a villain. If Leno’s return to Tonight does badly, well, that’ll show them. They’ll be sorry they were mean to me. Yeah, they’ll see, and then it’ll be too late.
January 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
I don’t think Conan’s using his airtime to make Leno a villain. A hack, sure, but not a villain. All the frustration I’ve seen him vent on the Tonight Show has been aimed at NBC itself.
January 19th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
My 20-something daughter brings up a point I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere…
Conan should go back to his old time slot. His comedy generally appeals to the ‘younger’ crowd. At 11:30, he competes with Colbert Report on Comedy Central, with it’s strong Jon Stewart lead-in. At midnight, or later, that viewing audience is free to change channels to Conan.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
This is neither here nor there, but I believe that one of the main reasons for the current situation is that in the current transition of the Tonight Show (from Leno to O’Brien) Jay Leno never really went away. Leno did nothing wrong and I don’t mean to lay ANY blame on him whatsoever, but I have no doubt that had Leno retired or expressed no desire to continue hosting a talk show, O’Brien would have been allowed to continue hosting the show until he had a chance to prove himself — the same chance that Leno himself had in 1992 when he took over he Tonight Show reigns from Johnny Carson.
If you remember, Leno lost in the ratings to Letterman night after night for a couple of years. However, NBC, rightfully, gave him a chance to prove himself. Contrast that with the current situation in which there was always the (unspoken) option of Leno coming back to “save the day”. I can’t imaging NBC keeping Leno on in 1992-1995 had Carson been willing to entertain the possibility of rescuing the show. Had that been the case, Leno would have been gone as quickly as O’Brien, now.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Well, his numbers are up now. Which is pretty funny when you think about it.
I’m actually enjoying the whole tempest and I think Conan and his writers are too.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
I interpreted what Conan’s doing is his acceptance that once he said he wouldn’t let the Tonight Show move back to 12:05, that he knew they were going to fire him. He’s just trying to go down in a blaze of comedic glory.
But I agree with PeterW. The only jokes at Leno’s expense have been in the “you can do whatever you want in life, unless Leno wants it.” Which, compared to everyone else in late night, is pretty tame.
Honestly, while yes, they’re within their rights to fire him for ratings- in late night you’re usually given more than a few months to find your place, and even if one show in NBC’s 10pm lineup is bombing, it wouldn’t do as much damage as Leno’s did. Despite the lack of news lead ins, Conan actually showed a remarkable gain in new viewers, considering what was lost from 10pm onward. If he’d had a more traditional launch, who knows what he might have done ratings-wise.
January 19th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
I agree with Peter W. I should add everything I know from this story comes from the internet, since I never upgraded my TV, but I seem to recall that Leno had TERRIBLE ratings for the first year or so after he took over for Johnny Carson, and then it took him a few more years to get the audience he has now. I don’t think it’s fair to say that Conan sucks because three months (?) into his show, he’s not meeting Leno’s rating.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Billo, I often agree with you, but I think you’ve missed the boat this time.
You said “Leno had twice the Tonight Show ratings you have. Who wouldn’t want him back?” — but in fact, at the equivalent point in Leno’s takeover of the Tonight Show back in the 90s, his ratings were just as bad. As several other comments have already (accurately) stated.
Something to think about: “Leno had 3 years to find his groove, O’Brien had 7 months with no lead in. If Johnny Carson had had a talk show on at 10pm before Leno, Leno would be out of Show business.”
That’s from this great analysis of the truth behind Leno’s recent comments:
http://karnagekreations.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/jay-leno-the-real-story-behind-his-11810-statement/
Then you said “And at a time when 10% of all Americans are unemployed, you’re going to be offered upwards of $30 million to walk away. How many times, over the last couple of years, have you mocked Wall Street and auto industry executives who were being obscenely rewarded for failure?”
Did you even read his first statement last week? He starts right off by saying: “In the last few days, I’ve been getting a lot of sympathy calls, and I want to start by making it clear that no one should waste a second feeling sorry for me. For 17 years, I’ve been getting paid to do what I love most and, in a world with real problems, I’ve been absurdly lucky.”
He’s not in this for the money. He’s not whining that he’s losing his job. He’s mocking the NBC executives — quite rightly, in most folks’ opinion — for totally screwing up the late-night lineup. Whether or not you think Conan deserves to keep the Tonight Show, you can’t deny that the situation has been handled HORRIBLY by the network. He’d be offered money to leave not as a “reward for failure,” but because NBC breached their end of the contract.
I think Conan is feeling beleaguered, stymied, and unfairly treated… but I don’t think he’s whining or being immature. He declared that he couldn’t go along with the network’s plans to move the Tonight Show to 12:05, because that would be dishonoring and destroying the franchise… it just wouldn’t be the Tonight Show anymore. In fact, it would be the Tomorrow Show…
If he was just in it for the money, he’d have subserviently bowed and gone along with it. But he’d rather leave what is likely a lucrative contract (and possibly face months of non-compete where he couldn’t work anywhere else) than go along with the continued fiasco of the NBC late-night lineup.
Once he decided he was going to leave, like WhitneyD said, he figured he’d go out in a ‘blaze of comedic glory’. Which, indeed, he is. His sketches etc on the situation have been biting and HILARIOUS.
Leno’s bits on the situation have been predictable and not all that funny. Just like his show has ALWAYS been.
January 24th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
I think it is a comic taking an opportunity to make smartass remarks.
He did it well and it worked.
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As “official” title for the new standard Advanced Video Coding (AVC) was chosen by MPEG - as video counterpart to the Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) audio format.
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Only the future will tell which Profile and which Tools will be the one most usable for DVD Backups, but i assume it will be the Main and/or High Profile with maybe the following tools (also check out the tool description of MPEG-4 ASP as all, except GMC, are available in AVC too):
CAVLC/CABAC:
AVC/H.264 defines two, more advanced tools for entropy coding of the bitstream syntax (macroblock-type, motionvectors + reference-index…) than MPEG-4 ASP: Context-Adaptive Variable Length Coding (CAVLC) and Context-Adaptive Binary Arithmetic Coding (CABAC).
CABAC, compared to CAVLC (aka UVLC) which is the default method in AVC/H.264, is a more powerful compression method, being said to bring down the bitrate. additonally by about 10-15% (especially on high bitrates). CABAC (as CAVLC) is a lossless method and therefore will never hurt the quality, but will slow down encoding and decoding.
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in contrary to prefiltering (for example via avisynth, done on the input), or postprocessing/filtering (via the decoder, done on the final output), LoopFiltering is applied during the encoding process on every single frame, after it got encoded, but before it gets used as reference for the following frames. This helps avoiding blocking artifacts, especially on low bitrates, but will slow down en/decoding.
Variable Block Sizes/Macroblock Partitions:
in contrary to MPEG-4 ASP (where, only with Inter4V/4MV, the Block Sizes can varry between 16×16 and 8×8 pixels), AVC/H.264 offers for Motion Search Precision the division of a macroblock down to 4×4 pixels (including steps like 8×4…). The Block Size is adaptive/variable, a good encoder will be smart enough to decide which one is best to use in every specific macroblock .
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in contrary to MPEG-4 ASP (which only allows using the frame before the actual frame as reference), AVC/H.264 offers choosing from multiple ones for inter motion search, which means the codec can decide whether he wants to simply refer to the previous frame (like in ASP) or even to a frame before that. Because of that (eg a P-Frame can refer to a frame before the latest I-Frame) a new frametype had to be introduced: IDR-Frames, which are I-Frames before which no following frame is allowed to refer to. Allowing multiple reference frames will slow down encoding and decoding and cutting will be only possible at IDR-Frames.
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With Weigthed Prediction there can be weights applied to a reference frame (eg you can scale (brightness-wise) a previous picture). This helps especially whenever there are fades, where the subsequent picture is very similar to the previous one except that it is darker. WP will not help with cross-fades (eg a fade from one scene to another).
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RDO allows the encoder to make the most efficient coding decisions whenever it has to choose between different choices (for example when it comes to inter/intra decisions, motion search…)
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An overview of AVC/H.264 compared to other popular video coding formats:
available AVC/H.264 Codecs
AVC/H.264 implementations are available atm already from x264 , Nero , Apple , MainConcept , Sorenson , Moonlight , CyberLink , VSS , mpegable , Envivio , Hdot264 ( binary ), DSPR , JM (reference software) ( binary ), ffmpeg , Philips , FastVDO , Skal , Sony and many more
Encoders
- x264 : the first publically available High Profile encoder, opensource (GPL) ( Source ), available for VFW: x264vfw , ffdshow (output .avi), as commandline: x264cli (outputs .mp4, raw), mencoder (outputs raw, .avi)
x264 supports 2pass, CABAC, Loop, multiple B-Frames, B-References, multiple Reference Frames, 4×4 P-Frame, 8×8 B-Frame Blocksizes, anamorphic signalling and High Profile: 8×8 dct and intra prediction, lossless and custom quant matrices
- NeroDigital AVC : useable in Nero Recode2 , outputs .mp4
ND AVC supports 2pass, CABAC, (adaptive) Loop, multiple B-Frames, mulitple Reference Frames, weighted prediction, 8×8 P-Frame Blocksizes, 16×16 B-Frame Blocksizes, Adaptive Quant. (Psy High)
- MainConcept : free encoder app. (adds a watermark), outputs .264 and .mpg PS/TS
1pass (CBR/VBR/fixed Quants), P-Frame Reorder, CABAC, Loop, Multiple B-Vops, Multiple Ref, 4×4 P-Frame Sizes, PAR, RDO
- Sorenson : useable in Sorenson Squeeze 4 , outputs .mp4,
Sorenson supports 2pass, max 2 B-Frames, B-References, Loop and multiple Slices
- Moonlight : useable in Moonlight’s OneClick Compressor and CyberLink’s PowerEncoder , outputs .mpg
Moonlight supports 1pass (VBR/CBR/Fixed Quants), CABAC, Loop, 2 B-Frames, 8×8 P-Frame Sizes, Adapt. Quant, PAR, Interlacing
- Apple : useable in Quicktime 7 , outputs .mp4 and .mov
Apple supports 2pass, max 1 B-frame, Adapt. Quant, multiple Slices, but no CABAC, no Loop and no Weighted Prediction
- JM : The AVC Reference Software offers in v9.3 Main and High Profile: B/SP-Frames, CABAC, Loop Filter, 4×4 Blocksizes, multiple Reference Frames, Adaptive Quant, Error Resilience, RDO, Lossless Coding, Custom Quants, Rate Control aso…
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- VSS : free preview VFW Encoder (limited to 5 days), based on the reference encoder
- Envivio : useable in 4Coder , outputs .mp4
Decoders ( comparison )
- ffmpeg : opensource (LGPL), used e.g. in ffdshow (VFW and DShow decoder), mplayer and VideoLAN
supports B-Frames, B-References, CABAC, Loop, Weighted Prediction and High Profile (8×8 dct and intra prediction, lossless)
- Apple : AVC decoding inside Quicktime 7
supports .mp4/.mov and B-Frames, CABAC, Loop
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supports Main Profile and High Profile
- Moonlight : offers a free DShow AVC decoder (adds a watermark) together with Parsers handling AVC as .mpg, .mp4 and .264
supports Main Profile and High Profile
- VSS : preview VFW Decoder (limited to 5 days) and a DShow Decoder (limited to 30 days)
VSS DShow supports .avi (with VSSH and H264 fourcc), CABAC, Loop, B-Frames
- MainConcept : the preview offers a free DShow AVC decoder (adds a watermark) and a Parser handling AVC as .mpg PS/TS
- Envivio : not freely available AVC DShow decoder called EnvivioTV, handling AVC in .mp4 (since 2.0, current version: 2-1-181)
- Philips : DShow AVC decoder freely available in the AVC Alliance player (handles raw AVC only)
- FastVDO : time limited (5 minutes per video) High Profile DShow Decoder
- mpegable : offered for some time a free VFW decoder (usable also in DShow), supports .avi (with DAVC fourcc)
- Pegasus : not really compliant DShow AVC decoder available here
- Basic AVC Decoder in C, for an university project available here
current issues with AVC/H.264
- interoperability: most implementations support different container formats atm:
.mp4: which is the container of AVC defined in the MPEG-4 Standard (ISO 14496-15) and supported by Nero, Sorenson, Envivio, Moonlight and x264 atm
.mpg: which is the container of AVC defined in the MPEG-2 Standard (ISO 13818-1, AMD3) and supported by Mainconcept and Moonlight atm
.avi: using AVC-in-AVI is nowhere standardized and therefore already causes incompatibilies. The limitations of AVI and VFW (eg regarding b-frames or arbitrary frame coding orders), together with the necessary hacks caused by these two formats, hinder the full implementation of all possible features AVC offers and therefore harm the possible quality or at least the speed of the development, the interoperability and therefore also the competition. AVI is currently used by VSS and x264 (mencoder and vfw)
.264/.h264: the raw bitstream not stored in a container. output for example by the reference, x264cli, mencoder and mainconcept
- speed: some current encoder implementations are pretty slow (mostly the commercial previews)
still x264 and NeroDigital’s AVC encoder seems to offer already a nice speed and quality. But this doesnt change the fact that AVC is a very advanced video coding format and therefore encoding on old CPU’s can be very time consuming.
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Two organisations (the DVD Forum and the Blu-ray Disc Association) are currently working on the successor of the popular DVD format, which will support so called High Definition content (larger picture sizes than current DVD): HD-DVD and BD-ROM
As reported here the DVD Forum already made the decision that MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 will be used as mandatory video codec for HD-DVD
Also the Blu-ray Disc Association has announced the inclusion of MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 as can be read here
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Read more about the MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 here for a detailed overview, summarized info here or here
a list of available implementations
The AVC Verification Test Results can be found here
The whole specs of AVC/H.264 can be downloaded here (Draft from the 7-14 March 2003)
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